What in the name of all that's good, and the little ponies, is up with this?
Less than a week after America has been rescued from going over the abyss called late stage fascism, I find articles in a trusted site of common sense recommending that the Dems drop any notions of impeachment! Okay, Watts is an independent, but...
The repukes spent $100 million trolling trailer parks specifically to disrupt a successful presidency. No other reason. That's how they are. They're vicious about winning, America's interests be damned.
But now that adults are in charge, it's not a ruse but an obligation to investigate since the crimes by comparison are historic in proportion , compared to hiding a consensual affair from your family and country. Did Bush deliberately lie his nation into an illegal, immoral war for big oil's interests and a personal grudge with Saddam? And there are other possible impeachable crimes. Wasn't this election won over the nations exasperation with political corruption and Iraq?
So allow me to be naive and say that these ponies knew the work load was going to be mega-serious. So hire more staff, increase your budgets, work on the nations business by day, hold investigation hearings in the evening ( when we can watch real democracy live after work) and see if we can't do both. By rights, the costs of all investigations should be charged to the GOP but I guess they could claw back a few points from tax cuts to the very wealthiest, Bush's base as he calls them?
This nation has never acted like they were at war, so now they'll have to work harder to get out of a war, repair a mess so big only W could have made it and return to the rule of law that seeks the wealthy and powerful as well as the rest.
Aside from reaffirming the rule of law in 'crooks run amok land', the Dems cannot show kindness or weakness to the GOP. They are like the tiger below. Offering forgiveness is a piece of meat to the GOP tiger, they will not give kindness back but only more aggression for what Bushco wants. Right now the GOP are still reeling. Keep them off balance with pending serious investigations while taking care of the nation's business.
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8 comments:
Q, I have to side with Watts here. He's talking tactics, not ethics.
Justice, not revenge or appeasement.
I've no doubt he would like to see Junior impeached but the Dems don't have the numbers to go straight for an impeachment yet, do they? Conyers has the plan but they will need to build massive public support for it first and get a dozen Repubs onside as well. They can get this by very publicly investigating the crimes instead of the the man, repealing the most draconian of the laws like the wire-tapping and Military Commissions Act, and beginning repairs on everything else.
Building a public groundswell takes time ; Nixon was re-elected by a landslide after Watergate broke because most people had no clue what it meant.
Also, remember who would be doing the impeaching - yeah, these useless fuckers.
Without an outraged public at their backs, they will just half-ass investigate the sock puppet in a show trial and leave all the rest intact, the guys who are still in office since Nixon with their corporate infrastructure and their terrible new laws.
So - Repair the damage, repeal the fuckers' laws, get the Dems re-elected in '08, and then impeach the bastard or give him to The Hague.
Unfortunately not possible to just send him to Abu Graib or cut off his head and mail it to Paraguay.
Shorter me : What do you think the chances are that that piece of meat can impeach that tiger all by itself?
That pic is amazing, makes me NOT want to get a pet tiger.
I see nothing in your comments that we disagree about other than our perceptions, impeachment will come inevitably from reasonable investigations, without revengeful sounding pre-fanfare, and the house votes and public support should follow an inevitable snow ball effect after Bush's crimes are exposed.
I think people will be unable to forgive his treachery. Who can forgive war profiteering?
Watts suggestion to let impeachment go altogether is crazy. It's lawless and will turn the Dems into that piece of meat. It's all opinion but I think before 2008, the Bush's will welcome their new home in Paraguay, Rancho Chimpedoro.
And when was the last time you joined an angry mob with pitchforks and torches ala Ceaucescu? Makes a lovely winter scene.
ach, the tiger is a lovely though frightening picture, lad!
before all this the dems were talking no impeachment, to just get on with things. now theres re-thinking. would it not make sense to start the investigations, irregarless of impeachment, and have all the fodder at hand?
tiing is everything. a careful weighing of public opinion is needed before impeachment proceedings begin. the fucker can't run again anyways, so maybe it's best to just chill and hold out for a bit.
the dems have a hell of a lot to deal with , the clean up is massive!!!!!!!!!!! perhaps it's best to start sweeping and dusting first, gather the trumps and start things before the prez elections......that may put the reepocons on the back burner for quite some time.
if impeachment were to proceed now , all may be forgotten by the time the big elections roll around.
club paraguay may start filling up irregardless.
I wasn't looking for a time table for impeachment, I just disagree with taking it off the table completely as suggested by Watts.
There are going to be investigations soon and it will come up at some point and I want to see justice addressed before he leaves office.
I think the twins will be bored at Rancho Chimpedoro. No, I take that back being so close to Peru and Columbia.
How about this as an approach, Q? Bi-partisan war hearings instead of impeachment. I worked for this guy in Oregon in '04 and I trust him. He voted against the Iraq War, the Patriot Act, the WTO and NAFTA.
I like Kucinich. Cleveland rocks.
We agree that there must be accountability.
I'm not sure how a bi-partisan hearing would go. You'd almost have to keep off the panel those Republicans that still profit from the big lie about Iraq or it would go nowhere?
The founding fathers would have put more options in there but they could never have imagined a crime syndicate so vast and evil taking over the helm.
It's generational and international.
Much as I'd like to see Georgie impeached ASAP, right after a long nasty election campaign isn't the right time for it. The democrats won mostly by getting the moderates to vote for them, those are the voters they have to work on keeping. It's probably smart to proceed with caution. Bipartisan investigations (with moderate republicans on the panel) that ultimately reveal the full extent of republican corruption and incompetence would be a better way to go for now.
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